A lot of the reason that I will not watch dubs is due to the quality that is put into it. Many references are changed in series to make it more Americanized. This isn't as bad as it was in the early 90s with what they did to series such as Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Utena, but it still exists. Also, in Japan, voice acting is a viable career(although temporary). Here in the US, we have people trying to live off of it, and those few names clogging up the industry. Take Vic for example: He did awesome in FMA's dub. After that, he milked that role for all it is worth due to fangirls buying into anything he does because he did one good role and has a pretty face. He is 50/50 at cons of whether he is a dick or not. Tiffany Grant just SHOWS UP to cons and expects special treatment at those she is not invited as a guest to. I have had personal chats with her and she is also not the nicest of people. People like this are recycled in series after series and they make little to no effort to change the voice for characters. I know I have heard Tai from Digimon in about half a dozen different roles including a random guard that dies in the first scene of Elfen Lied. With a constant recycling of actors and their voices, it causes an aversion to watching series. The dub of Ouran was horrendous and was cast based on people with big names in the industry. 

tl;dr I think that part of it can be piracy, but we also need to factor in economy and those voice actors that just can't move on and milk their old roles for new ones that could be better cast which could improve quality of dubs, thus providing motivation for people to watch them over subs. We complain that voice actors are underpaid, yet they work they do is....well....underperformed in many cases(note I said many and not all). There are a lot of reasons why the industry is dying and we can't blame it all on piracy like people are prone to scapegoat to.

I also never at any point justified piracy. I did specify that I did and that I have also spent a large amount of money on anime stuff as well. I never said at any point that watching fansubs was justified by my buying things. That was your interpretation

I never justified it. YOU said I justified it and making assumptions like that and labeling me a villian is, in your words, "just low".

An added note: although I watch fansubs, I do also buy series that I truly enjoyed that I have watched subbed long before their US release. I bought Nanoha for example as well as Rozen Maiden, Red Garden, am waiting on a release of Shiki in March, etc. I am one of the exceptions that still buys a large amount of merch while watching fansubs while most people watch little to nothing.

Another added note: Since you bought the CCS tapes...the industry is getting NOTHING from you due to them already being purchased. It is not supporting or declining the industry in any manner, so you can't use those as a reasoning for how you support the industry. Buying used does not benefit the original makers, only new xP

Also, I do watch subbed on my dvds.

Nick: I know who both of you are. Trae is one of the founders of NoBrand, which I attend loyally every year and has recently moved out of WI to a state not mentioned, since this is the internet and giving other people's personal information is just rude.  You are the original cosplay chair of Daisho. I haven't kept up with staffing changes for this next year though, if they have even happened yet, so I don't know your next year role, if it would be the same or not. I have also attended all but this recent year of that con(this year was a money issue as I lost my job a couple weeks beforehand). You are also dating a girl with the initials CL  

2 things: One, I never said I was entitled to anything. I never mentioned that it is alright, that I am justified, or that I am entitled.

Two: I watch series for something new. I find enjoyment out of some, and others I saw through and was "meh" about. Series that I truly enjoyed like RahXephon, Love Hina, Negima(They need to release a new manga volume already...I am also reading this online due to impatience, but am sworn that no matter if I am in massive debt that I will buy every volume since I am at 32 volumes so far plus all of Negima Neo), Nana, Crest of the Stars, Red Garden(which I actually started on DVD and after the incident with the last volume's release and not being able to track one down for a year watching the rest online and still buying it, might I note), Tsubasa(I have the collector's sets with individual volumes), and a few more, I watch repeatedly, noting little things that I hadn't before, etc. I do enjoy anime, but I also don't do much else in life lol. Also in reference to knowing how much I watched, there is a site called Anime-Planet. I got bored in class one day and went through the database. It is basically a list of series, listed in each name it is known as(since occasionally names change when dubbed because a fully Japanese name would make little sense over here)(if you choose one version of the name, it fills in the other, such as the case for Case Closed and Detective Conan, to name a popular one). That is how I know how much I have watched. I also did not say I have seen everything, but almost everything. There are several series I am just not interested in, as any anime fan or person in general has series that fit that description.

Also, yes, I am crazy, but that has nothing to do with this conversation. Tiffany was less than pleasant to me...twice...thus I am allowed to say my opinion on her character. She may have been great to you, but then again you were a con head for a con she is trying to impress and I am just a congoer. There is a difference in our stations thus behavior was different.

I'm into a certain j-rock artist, and I will drop a ton of $$ for their CDs and DVDs, fans that just sit there and download their whole discography and want rips of the DVDs I rightfully paid for irritate me.  True fans spend the $ and support the art form they love.  Fans that don't support the art form are wolves in sheep's clothing. 

So when these anime companies continue to drop like flies...I hope people will wake up soon from their delusions, before its too late.

"Tiffany Grant just SHOWS UP to cons and expects special treatment at those she is not invited as a guest to. I have had personal chats with her and she is also not the nicest of people."

First and foremost, comparing Tiffany Grant and Vic in the same sentence is like comparing an orange to the goddamn moon. I sat here for 10 minutes re-reading that sentence to make sure I saw it right. 

Second, I'm not sure what you did, but I can almost guarantee with 100% accuracy that you did something to really, really tick her off. If she acted like this to you, this tells me that you're not telling the whole story, and you did something to Tiffany to make her mad. Which, I regret to inform you, that while Tiffany is practically a damn saint (She is, considering I've had the pleasure of interacting with her at 7 years of the con I help run), you make her mad or do something to wrong her on a serious level, she's going to be short with you.

Third, I'm going to guess if you claim you 'did nothing' to deserve the treatment that you got, that you are over exaggerating the behavior you perceived in Tiffany. I repeat: TIFFANY GRANT IS A SAINT. The women is one of if not THE nicest person I've had the pleasure of interacting with. She can also be honest to a fault, so maybe that's your problem. 


TL;DR stop blaming Tiffany's perceived attitude towards you and check yourself. If you haven't realized yet, you're acting like a massive jerk.